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MustangGTorg
05-15-2001, 12:06 AM
Well took the GT back to EJ's Dyno in Omaha. He is going to program a chip for the car using the 19lb injectors with the 24 MAF. The chip he uses is a Unichip (http://www.dastek.co.za/). The only way to be a dealer for this brand of chip is to have a load bearing dyno. A Dyno jet will not work. In talking with him Dyno Jet isn't all what the mags make it out to be. He puts the car on the dyno and programs the chip while the car is under load. He is going to start with the 19lb injectors and if the numbers dont look good he will switch to the 24lb.

On the way over got into a huge hail storm. Hail size was a little bit smaller than a golf ball. Luck had it just as it started to hail I was coming up on a overpass. Slide to a stop and backed up to get the GT under cover. Hailed so much that the ground was white....lucked out, no dents.

Will have video up load on the dyno soon.

David

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David & Kathy Bowers
1982-1993 Mustang GT Registry
www.mustanggt.org (http://www.mustanggt.org)
1965 Mustang coupe (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (stock)
1985 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (daily driver)
1991 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (open track/autocross)
1998 Expedition (family hauler & tow vehicle)


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MustangGTorg
05-15-2001, 09:48 AM
We're currently working on putting a web page together that tells about going to the dyno (with some photos and video), but I thought since I had the video part of it done, I would go ahead and put a link to the video of one of the dyno pulls... (be sure and have your computer's speakers turned up) http://64.21.184.154/ubb/wink.gif

(If you have troubles getting it to work by just clicking on it, I suggest you right click it then click on "save link as" in Netscape or "save target as" in Internet Explorer to save it to your hard drive for viewing.)

http://showcase.netins.net/web/dkbowers/ourgt1.mpg (3.5 MB)

BTW, the smoke rolling out from under the car at the end is the oil leak we were battling a week ago which has since been fixed (oil was coming out of the old dipstick hole and shooting onto the header on the driver's side).

Kathy

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David & Kathy Bowers
1982-1993 Mustang GT Registry
www.mustanggt.org (http://www.mustanggt.org)
1965 Mustang coupe (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (stock)
1985 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (daily driver)
1991 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (open track/autocross)
1998 Expedition (family hauler & tow vehicle)


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FL_Stang
05-15-2001, 11:34 AM
When you say the oil was coming out of the old dipstick hole, did you replace the holder for the dipstick to prevent the leak? I know, I sound a bit dumb, just curiouse as I have noticed that my holder starts backing out when I pull my dipstick out. What type of problems would this cause. Not super mechanicaly experienced, but learning more all the time. Appreciate any knowledge you can give me.

MustangGTorg
05-15-2001, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by FL_Stang:
When you say the oil was coming out of the old dipstick hole, did you replace the holder for the dipstick to prevent the leak?

Well in our case, the new Canton oil pan came with a new dipstick hole, so the old dipstick tube was removed from the stock hole on the block. The reason for the leak was that the engine shop forgot to put a plug into the old hole when the motor was rebuilt and the new pan was put on. We didn't notice that the hole wasn't plugged up until we re-pulled the motor to figure out where the leak was... (thought it was the oil pan gasket) http://64.21.184.154/ubb/mad.gif David got a plug for the old hole from the engine shop and that took care of the problem.

Kathy

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David & Kathy Bowers
1982-1993 Mustang GT Registry
www.mustanggt.org (http://www.mustanggt.org)
1965 Mustang coupe (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (stock)
1985 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (daily driver)
1991 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (open track/autocross)
1998 Expedition (family hauler & tow vehicle)

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FL_Stang
05-16-2001, 05:21 PM
Hmmm. Sounds like fun! Do you know if the dip stick tbe is supposed to be loose (backing out when you pull the dipstick out)Because mine is, and this is the first car I have had this problem with. Is this normal?

Mick
05-18-2001, 11:15 AM
How did the recent dyno and tuning session go?

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1983 Mustang GT (http://www.mustanggt.org/photo/83tuttle.htm) 306/T-5(project in progress)
1994 Ranger Splash (http://www.geocities.com/mt83rd/index.html?986572015220) 4.0L/A4LD(daily driver)

mike g
05-18-2001, 05:33 PM
what rpm did they take your stang up to when they were dynoing it? that sounded like they really got it up there.

also what kind of exaust do you have on it, it sounds pretty beefy.

Chris-90LX
07-02-2005, 12:26 AM
It could be that Iím really beginning to decline. :shrug:

I can't remember if we ever got a straight answer on what kind of power the GT Hatchback was making after the dyno trip to Omaha.


Which set of injectors worked best? What were the final horsepower and torque?

How is that T5Z Transmission holding up? :shrug:

Retro10
07-02-2005, 12:30 AM
Im impressed that you remembered to follow up on this 4 years later, LOL ;)

Chris-90LX
07-02-2005, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Retro10:
Im impressed that you remembered to follow up on this 4 years later, LOL ;) Maybe there was a published answer that scores of us saw. :shrug:

I just can't remember! :yelrotfl:

I also failed to find anymore Bowers' dyno run threads too. :shrug:

MustangGTorg
07-02-2005, 01:57 PM
Holy cow... this post really came back from the dead. :D

Chris, there's actually a LOT more to this story that we never posted... we'll have to see if we can remember it and get the follow up posted. :crazy:

BTW, the T5Z tranny is holding up great. :thumbsup:

Kathy

Bill_Laird's86GT
07-02-2005, 02:28 PM
I feel sorry for the guy who asked about the dipstick, He never got a response and I doubt he ever posts here anymore. :(


Bill

Whtstang
07-02-2005, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Bill_Laird's86GT:
I feel sorry for the guy who asked about the dipstick, He never got a response and I doubt he ever posts here anymore.
Bill There's no telling what happened to FL_Stang. I noticed that his last post was in Sept,01 & all but a couple of his posts were in The Front Porch. Sometimes people just move on.

MustangGTorg
07-03-2005, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Chris-90LX:
Originally posted by Retro10:
Im impressed that you remembered to follow up on this 4 years later, LOL ;) Maybe there was a published answer that scores of us saw. :shrug:

I just can't remember! :yelrotfl:

I also failed to find anymore Bowers' dyno run threads too. :shrug: </font>Good grief how did you ever find this old post?? :eek: You couldnt ask this before I turned 40 and started forgetting things at a rapid pace :rolleyes:

I'll try to shorten this down...
Well like was stated I got the oil leak fixed and it dyno'd with the chip in at 295hp at the rear wheels using the 19lb injectors as he thought those were better. Only gained 10 hp...wasnt to happy but it really ran alot better and was noticably faster at the little track our club rents for autocrosses. We started having idle problems and made a trip back to Omaha and he adjusted the fuel but still wasnt right. I started switching injectors tothe 24 lb and then it would idle great but ran fat. Back to Omaha and we adjusted to the 19lb injectors. Tried it some more but still wasnt happy. Back to Omaha and I had him pull the chip out. Did some checking and his chip is not as programable as some of the others out there, and the others are alot cheaper. Soooo the goal was to head over to the Quad Cities and have a chip done there but the $$$ flow problem raised its head and we never made it over. So right now we are running the 24's fat and SOMEDAY we will have a chip done for it.


David

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Chris-90LX
07-03-2005, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by MustangGTorg:
I'll try to shorten this down...
Well like was stated I got the oil leak fixed and it dyno'd with the chip in at 295hp at the rear wheels using the 19lb injectors as he thought those were better. David Dave holy crap! :eek:

295hp at the rear wheels is like 350 at the flywheel! :thumbsup:

Can I have the Reader's Digest version of the car's modifications?

Can you remember what kind of torque you were spinning? :shrug:

Thanks, Chris

MustangGTorg
07-03-2005, 08:44 PM
Well I'll need to dig the dyno results out for the torque.

Mods are here
http://showcase.netins.net/web/dkbowers/ourgt.htm

plus Crane cam 2031, Canton oil pan and some head work. Oh we switch the MAF out for a .....hmmmm a ....... hmmmmm Pro M I think.

Without the chip out we are at 285 rear wheel hp.

David

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