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G.Grebe
04-06-2001, 07:03 PM
Well I lost in court today on a speeding ticket trial. It was total BS but the judges believe whatever the cops say.

Judgment: Guilty. $175 fine.
:-(

speedy_stang
04-06-2001, 11:49 PM
I hear you, those WA State troopers can really piss you off.

G.Grebe
04-07-2001, 03:51 AM
Oregon state patrol actually. Waaaaay worse than Washington!

James90mustang
04-07-2001, 09:19 PM
Hey Grebe where do you live? I live in minnehaha, which is right by hazel dell, just in case you dont know where that is. Sorry about the ticket man.

G.Grebe
04-08-2001, 07:48 PM
Near the mall, within walking distance.

FL_Stang
04-09-2001, 12:39 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean. I am originally from there (Walla Walla), and we had problems with both state troopers as well, since we did all our shopping in Oregon. I am coming back out this summer for vacation, but I am flying so I won't have my Stang : (
Too bad about the ticket. Florida troopers are some of the sneakiest bass terds I have ever seen. Popping out from behind trees, sitting in the median with thier lights off etc. I actually had one tell me that I was doing 97 MPH in a 65. I was in a K car, who was he trying to kid!!! I pointed this out, but he said "all I know is that if you go to court I will testify that this was your speed". What a load! Troopers as a whole do not care about whether or not the ticket is legitamate, just about whether they get credit for ticketing you or not. I better sign off now, I am getting a bit irritated~~~~~~~~~~Later guys and gals!

gmstmpr
04-09-2001, 07:06 PM
what a nut...my girlfriend had a K car for 2 years...lucky if those things could hit 70...especially if it was one of those "turbo" jobs...then forget about it

83ho
04-10-2001, 03:36 PM
you always gota have some stale glazed donuts to feed the "bears". yes, cops do what they want-doesn't matter where you live. i'm in maine-live in a town of 1000 and have 4 state troopers and numerous sheriffs and other crime fighting guys. wait til they walk up to your car and say "i smell pot"!!!! they hate my 83vert and listen....i'm 55 years old.

MustangGTorg
04-10-2001, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by FL_Stang:
Troopers as a whole do not care about whether or not the ticket is legitamate, just about whether they get credit for ticketing you or not.

Originally posted by 83ho:
yes, cops do what they want-doesn't matter where you live. ... wait til they walk up to your car and say "i smell pot"!!!! they hate my 83vert...

Sorry, I can't say that I agree with those statements. There are good cops and there are bad cops - I've seen both. I'd rather this didn't turn into a cop-bashing thread.

Guess what? I got caught speeding about a year ago. I got pulled over and got a ticket. Did I deserve it? Sure, I got caught breaking the law... Did I like getting caught? Of course not!! But I don't go around saying all cops are bad because of it... it's called taking responsibility for your actions. http://64.21.184.154/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Kathy




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fastrnyou
04-10-2001, 06:09 PM
I agree with that fully kathy. Rather than bashing all cops because of one bad one, or even worse, bashing all cops becuase we are mad we got caught. I have been caught... 43 times. Not proud of it, but i believe that i deserve nearly every one of em. I haven't gotten that many tickets *18* but i just get caught real often. Not good when you are insuring a 20 year old male on 2 sports cars :O http://64.21.184.154/ubb/frown.gif

I cause my high rates, can't blame it on someone else.

G.Grebe
04-10-2001, 06:45 PM
Kathy that's exactly why I started this thread, I dissagree with the cop, I did not deserve the fine, I believe the cop was incorrect. I thought I could prove this, I was wrong. Had I been speeding, I would have paid it initally rather than wasting my time in court!

MustangGTorg
04-10-2001, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by G.Grebe:
Kathy that's exactly why I started this thread, I dissagree with the cop, I did not deserve the fine, I believe the cop was incorrect. I thought I could prove this, I was wrong. Had I been speeding, I would have paid it initally rather than wasting my time in court!

Yes, and if you'll notice, I didn't have an issue with what YOU said. However, I do have a problem with those people who like to make general statements that all cops are bad and don't take responsibility for their own wrong-doing. http://64.21.184.154/ubb/smile.gif

Kathy


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1985 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (daily driver)
1991 Mustang GT hatchback (http://www.mustanggt.org/bowers/index.html) (open track/autocross)
1998 Expedition (family hauler & tow vehicle)

FL_Stang
04-12-2001, 12:25 PM
Well, you are of course entitled to any opinion that you want to have. I did not say that all cops are bad cops, I said that as a whole I don't think troopers care whether or not the ticket is legitamte, because of the fact that it is a number game with them, like all other police agencies. They have quota's to fill, and some take it to the extreme. I have recieved tickets, which I fought in court for as little as 3 count em 3 MPH over the limit, lost every time. My statement reflects the experiences I have had in particular with Florida State Troopers. The probelm I have is not when I am going 90 and get busted, those things I did of my own volition and deserve the consequences, it is when I am wronged by an action of the police, for which there is no legitamate recourse. Judges, as was stated in the post that started this thread are going to take what the trooper says for fact, because if they don't every case is an us vs them scenario which could not be proven. Not to take anything away from you, I just know what has happened to me, and I feel that the practices of cops (Florida) need to be questioned. We have recently had cases down here where the practices were found to be illegal by the state constitution. The biggest problem I have is that they give tickets here for things that between the speedometer on your car, and the +/- accuracy on the radar are impossible to know for sure. Anyway, I don't wish any harm to come to them, just wish the system in general, the way they enforce speed, traffic violations, etc. could be handled in a way that makes more sense to me. Giving them numbers to beat only motivaztes them to find tickets whether there are any or not.

FlowmasterGT
04-14-2001, 03:09 AM
hey,

i understand what everyone is trying to say here. I dont bash cops, but i dont like them. In my neighborhood everyone takes their nice rides (tons of GT's) and shows/rides them down the strip. Lots of dragging going on. What i dont like is when they either pull you over for showing off your stang or for pulling you over for racing off the line. If your not speeding, then why are they pulling you over. If a guy pulls up to you with a grand am GT and wants to race, im going to show him where he belongs. i think its a pride thing, male thing. But i think it sucks that cops can pull you over just for chirpin your tires a bit. Why dont they worry about other things like drugs/gangs/etc. you know what i mean??

DAN 85 GT
04-15-2001, 12:51 PM
You guys think these places are bad , NC is real bad for pullin people over for having a fast cars.Back in 89 I had my first ford exp. I was drivin a Capri 5.0 this thing really hauled but ,and it was loud.At the time they pulled me over I was going about 35MPH. in a 35MPH zone .I think they pulled me over because of the flowmasters.

G.Grebe
04-15-2001, 01:27 PM
Hey the cops in Gresham, OR (suburb or Portland) have come up with a plan to curb street racing, they are going to let you race cops at the track! I know they have one persuit camaro and they said normal patrol cars will be there too. Don't know when this will start but I think it would be a good way for us to relieve frustrations, if we can't win at court we certainly should win on the track!!

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Red85GT
04-15-2001, 01:59 PM
Dude i don't no that i would want to go to the track and race the cops, to me it would be an excellant place for them to get tag numbers and names of drivers that are able to out run them, and thus put you on a lookout for list because you have a fast car.. Seems to me that you would put a BIG bullseye on your ride

FL_Stang
04-16-2001, 11:54 AM
A little paranoid perhaps? They have similar programs in Florida, and they seem to work well. The main reason for doing this is that they know we will race anyway, so why not provide a way to have it monitored, but not put any bystanders in danger? I like the idea of racing cops. Here they have everyone race, then the winner gets to challenge the mighty state trooper in his modified old trooper 5.0! Fun stuff to watch, or participate in, although I have never raced there myself.

G.Grebe
04-16-2001, 06:10 PM
I agree I think it will be fun to smoke some cops, legally!

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83ho
04-16-2001, 06:42 PM
a very interesting thread! seems like everyone has a cop story. i stand by my previous statement. the problem is this: rather than be a professional and just enforcing the law, MOST cops prefer to be more the dodge city type-this is my town, and become judge and jury. arrest this guy-let this guy go--tell me with a straight face that you don't believe me. the papers are full of bad cop stories. i never meant to "bash" cops-rather to remind everyone to watch themselves around cops. they have MUCH power. please don't forget that. doing so could cost u big time someday. i have been hotrodding since the 50's-cars get noticed by the cops and then are targeted at their leisure. here in maine, they are the final word about your car being on the road and can take it off for good any time they want.

Bob90GT
04-17-2001, 09:14 AM
There is a group of cops here in Jersey that race down at the track. It is off-duty though. They are pretty straight-forward guys. It's cool because they all drive different kinds of cars (Stangs, Camaros, etc) I think it's cool that even the cops have that need for speed you cannot fulfill on the road without getting a ticket.

Bill_Laird's86gt
04-18-2001, 05:24 PM
I just recently got a speeding ticket in my work van for going 75 in a 55. I knew that i was in the wrong and didn't fight with the policeman over the ticket.I did get a lawyer and spent $340.00 for him to appear in court for me and it was reduced to a non-points violation.It was the first speeding ticket in a couple of years and that last one cost me a whole day in defensive driving course on my birthday.I will now do it the right way and let an attorney do my talking and try to get me out of them when i can. I'm not saying that speeding is right or anything but sometimes to get from point a - point b you gotta feed it a little more gas. And the previous thread about NC police is true, they really can hide and will pulse radar gun you in a moments notice. Bill

MustangGTorg
04-20-2001, 12:25 AM
Okay I have held my peace long enough.........I, as a member of the law enforcement brotherhood, I must say my piece.

There are good cops and bad. PERIOD. I have been in law enforceemnt for 5 years now and in that time the other officers I have worked with have NEVER gone looking for "certain" people I.E. muscle car owners ect.

90% of the time you need to be going 15 mph or more before we will pull you over for speeding, in this county. I have been stopped for speeding and you know something.....I was speeding and I knew I was so I took the punishment. Was I happy I got caught ....no. Did I complain ?....NO

So for those of you that have been stopped for speeding.....be mature enough to admit you were in the wrong. Yeah you can be mad about it but don't turn it into a cop bashing thing ok??

David
Polk County Reserve Deputy #333
Proudly carrying a Glock 23 (insert Tim Allen grunt here) http://64.21.184.154/ubb/smile.gif

P.S. that's the problem with the country today....nobody takes responsibility for their actions.......its always somebody else's fault. (stepping off my soap box)



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1998 Expedition (family hauler & tow vehicle)

[This message has been edited by MustangGTorg (edited 04-19-2001).]

Wes93GT
04-20-2001, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by David:
nobody takes responsibility for their actions.......its always somebody else's fault.


Here's the deal. I have been stopped several times by police for "speeding." I have received a ticket once. More often than not the cops will give you a warning, especially if you admit the error of your ways! http://64.21.184.154/ubb/tongue.gif

My first ticket I was doing 72kph in a 50kph zone (I don't hink I was going that fast but whatever.) The cop pulls me over, and I don't have my license with me. He gave me a speeding ticket, but no fine for not having my license (that's nasty up here $150+) So in my experience, it isn't fair to group all cops together... if you apologize, they're likely to let you go!

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