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Old 02-15-2014, 02:42 PM   #1
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Question Canadian Mustang Gt Dealer Book Strange Detail On Dash.

I obtained the dealer order book for the 87 Mustang model year (Canada) and noticed something strange in one of the photos. There's a square recess molded into the dash that I've never seen before. My car is an early 87 (ordered 8/86) Canadian export and does not have this detail.

I'm wondering if this was a prototype dash with the location for a Day/Date/Elapsed time clock which was deleted for 87 and the photo some how made it to print to the dealers.
At the manufacturing level it would be a simple matter of removing a square plate in the mold.

FYI, the car in the photo was a white convertible GT.

Anyone out there have a copy of the US Dealer Order Book?


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Old 02-15-2014, 09:28 PM   #2
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Hi George,

That's strange. I've never seen that before.

What do you mean when you say that your car is a "Canadian export"? If I remember correctly, Ford's Mustang plant was in Dearborn, MI. I was not aware of any differences between American and Canadian models for the 1987 model year. In the early 1980s, there were some differneces - like more use of the 4.2 engine in Canadian models.

I never knew there was such a thing as a "Dealer Order Book". I assume that is what the dealers ordered form.
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Interesting!

Thank you for sharing!

As mentioned, this is likely an pre-production photo showing where the optional clock may have been planned to be installed.

It just goes to show that these factoids still raise their heads after all these years. Besides the 4.2L and automatic transmission combo discrepancy, some Canadian market GT's were called Cobras.
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Interesting!

Thank you for sharing!

As mentioned, this is likely an pre-production photo showing where the optional clock may have been planned to be installed.

It just goes to show that these factoids still raise their heads after all these years. Besides the 4.2L and automatic transmission combo discrepancy, some Canadian market GT's were called Cobras.
You're welcome.

Docs from the 87 model year suggest all Canadian GT's were called Cobra GT's.



Also, this is a great read;
http://www.mustanggt.org/canadiangt/canadiangt.htm

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Old 02-16-2014, 12:25 PM   #5
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Hi George,

That's strange. I've never seen that before.

What do you mean when you say that your car is a "Canadian export"? If I remember correctly, Ford's Mustang plant was in Dearborn, MI. I was not aware of any differences between American and Canadian models for the 1987 model year. In the early 1980s, there were some differneces - like more use of the 4.2 engine in Canadian models.

I never knew there was such a thing as a "Dealer Order Book". I assume that is what the dealers ordered form.
My car was purchased in Canada, it has a metric speedo and "Cobra" decal on the decklid. It was exported to Canada from Dearborn, MI and sold as a Mustang Cobra GT. See attachment which is part of the dealer invoice for my car.

The dealer order book has the MSRP and wholesale prices as well as all the codes for ordering the various options etc. It's a great read!
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Hi George,

I was wondering why your car has a "Cobra" decal on the rear hatch. I thought it was something that you added at a later date. I never knew that fact about certain 1987 Canadian Mustang GT models.

Really, if you think about it, the 1987-1993 Mustang GT should have been the Cobra model. And the 1987-1993 Mustang LX 5.0 should have been the GT (or Boss) model. I don't know why Ford chose to name them that way. Over the years, I've actually told this to many people. And I wasn't even aware of the Canadian name confusion.
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Hi George,

Thanks for posting that link about the Canadian Mustang info. It is very interesting. I wasn't aware of about half of that info.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that, in Germany, Ford couldn't use the "Mustang" name because another car was already called that.
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Hi George,

Thanks for posting that link about the Canadian Mustang info. It is very interesting. I wasn't aware of about half of that info.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that, in Germany, Ford couldn't use the "Mustang" name because another car was already called that.
Augie, German exported Ford Mustangs were called T5's.

"Sometime in the early 1950s a German truck manufacturer, Krupp, introduced a large general purpose truck and named it the Mustang. They were issued German copyrights to the name Mustang and continued to build this truck for many years".

http://www.fordt5.com/history.html


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I read all the what-whats on that chart...foot wells lights too. How come we never got foot well lights??? Did anyone ever add foot well lights to their converts?
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Hi Chris,

I never knew that Krupp built trucks. I guess that they were one of those "many-tentacled" organizations (like Enron) that had their hands in numerous products.

For many years, I've known about Krupp's gun division and their heavy involvement in World War II. They built many war products for Germany.

At one point in its existence, Krupp's gun division was known as "Flussstahl-Krupp-Essen", or "FKE" for short. When my grandfather was younger, he bought a Krupp/FKE 16-gauge (double-barrel?) shotgun made in Germany/Belgium in the circa 1920s. It was really old. My family sold it several years ago. We had no use for it. On the New York City gun registration card, it was listed as "FKE", not "Krupp". But it was built by Krupp. That's how I know some info about Krupp. They built some really weird hybrid-type guns during the World War II era. When the war ended, I think their gun division was dismantled by the Allies.
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Here is a article we wrote years ago on the GT's heading to our north. Read and enjoy!!

http://www.mustanggt.org/canadiangt/canadiangt.htm
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