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Old 04-20-2001, 02:58 AM   #1
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I hate the way inspection is here in PA. DMV is all private owned here in PA. which sux. So you have to go to a gas station and pay about $90 for vehicle and emissions testing. But the lil *******s find every freakin thing that could possibly be a hazard by a hundred to one shot. Just so they can fail you and take more of your money to fix the car. I wouldnt mind payin the money for inspection if inspection places only did inspection. That way you dont have to worry about them makin stuff up. And if i dont want the place i go to for inspection to any repairs...Im gonna have to pay for inspection again, because quite honestly who wants to have to pay $30 over the price of a pep boy brand tire from a gas station. Oh, and they make you drop your car off at 9am but you will never get it back before they close. why cant they just give you an appointment???? I know there has to more complaints about inspection methods out there.
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Old 04-20-2001, 03:18 AM   #2
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Inspection stations cannot fail your vehicle for something that is not on the safety inspection checklist. Ask to see the safety checklist provided by the DMV and for the inspector to indicate which item(s) on the safety checklist caused your vehicle to fail. If they fail your vehicle's safety inspection for something that is not on the safety checklist, contact the DMV and report the information to them.

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Old 04-20-2001, 10:41 AM   #3
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oh here in PA they try to stay stuff that isnt a saftey hazard is...tried to tell me one time my outer tie rods were bad on both sides of the car...well they were replaced with the rack 2 weeks prior to that. i know they all dont do this...but the system is just askin for corruption...i know other people have had similar problems

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Old 04-20-2001, 02:31 PM   #4
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Sorry I can't say I've had any bad experiences at inspection time. Just had my pony inspected on March 1st, 2001 and it took all of 5 min. $10 here in Louisiana.
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Old 04-20-2001, 03:07 PM   #5
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Man, I feel for You guys.. I live in South Carolina where we have NO inspections. Heck, I think even the cops run off-road pipes and such, around here! hehehee...j/k
I'm sure that will change one day, though. Sorry about Your hassles..
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Old 04-20-2001, 03:28 PM   #6
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No safety inspection here in TN either. I've lived in NC(3 years) and NY(26 years) and never had any trouble with any safety inspection stations in either state. Then again, I knew my vehicles and whether the inspection station was full of it or not. The ones that thought they could BS me were corrected promptly. I thought the receipt for the NC visual emissions check on my '83 GT was quite humorous with Air Injection checked "not applicable" and Oxygen Sensor checked "connected".

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Old 04-21-2001, 01:31 AM   #7
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you guys gut it easy....hey i dont mind the inspection...may catch things that i havent noticed...but i dont enjoy the price tag or the b.s. the stations try to pull cause they thing im some dumb punk with a hot rod who doesnt know a head gasket from a head bolt...oh and they luv to try to con my mom...so i started taken her car to inspection

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Old 04-22-2001, 01:37 AM   #8
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Hey gmstmpr,

I share the same sense of frustation regarding inspections here in Ontario, Canada.

In my opinion it's nothing but a money grab from the politicians to the garages to used car salespoeple. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for safety and the environment but it's the unfairness and inconsistency that urks me the most.

First the safety inspections: they're a joke. I know guys that for $100CDN will give you a certificate without even seeing the car (over the mail) and surely it's not the law abiding citizen that is going to use their services, but some shmoe that want's to unload a rusty wheelbarrow he calls a car, but hey it's "certified"

Next the emissions test; again there are guys(for a fee) that will simply put a clean car on the dyno but type in your VIN into the government computer and presto your car passed and is ready to be sold.

Again, who uses these services? Mostly people in the auto sales industry because they have all the connections. A guy like you or I must go by the book (and it's a big book) and pay though the nose to bring our cars to near new condition. Who knows if at the emissions test the guy unplugs a vaccum line or an O2 sensor. Do you? Are you allowed to stand and watch them? Usually not because they claim their insurance wont cover them or some other crap like that.

Then there's the issue of differing states/provinces having different laws. Some don't care if you drive your lawn mower downtown and on the highways, yet others expect your car to be ready for a concours. Do cars and/or their emissions not cross state or provincial boundries? How about the big companies that go to third world countries to pollute like crazy? What is the govt. doing about that? Oops! We are talking cars here, right?

Sorry to rant and go on and on but being a car lover I see some of these new laws (which were probably drawn up by some queers that don't even drive because they live downtown and take public transit) as a direct attack on us car guys. Why? Because we have money and we will do whatever it takes to keep our cars on the street.

Simply put, I'm pissed not at the principle of the inspections but at the way they're carried out. Lobby your politician when they come to your door asking for votes.

There, I feel much better now

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Old 04-22-2001, 07:52 PM   #9
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I think that Fed mandated emission standards have cost us to drop more HP then all of the blown engines in the world put together!
At least now it would seem that we are starting to rise up out of the turmoil because we are seeing more & more clean burning hi-output engines in new car models. Mostly because of improved computer technology.
Don't think it's over though because more HP means more fuel consumption & America hasn't yet really been forced to come to terms with dwindling fuel supplies.
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