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Riley 02-02-2005 03:58 PM

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FoxChassis 02-02-2005 05:25 PM

Never heard of a "Cobra package" on an '83 Mustang GT. Need more information on exactly what this "package" consists of, and pictures, etc. before we can give you advice.

Riley 02-02-2005 05:53 PM

It has Cobra parts,Cobra Emblems factory roll bar,302 HO 5.0. Sorry I can't provide you with more info, and I don't have pictures at the moment.

FoxChassis 02-02-2005 06:05 PM

Sounds like a Predator Mustang which was built by Tom Solomon (not Ford, so it's not "factory")...

http://www.graphic-express.com/z-orlando_hayward.htm
http://www.graphic-express.com/ford_...itor_cobra.htm

http://www.graphic-express.com/images2/83-86%201.gif

[ 02-02-2005, 03:05 PM: Message edited by: FoxChassis ]

Riley 02-02-2005 06:39 PM

That's not it. Because this "was" bought direct from the Ford house. Only one owner.

FoxChassis 02-02-2005 06:49 PM

Tom Solomon was heavily involved with Shelby Mustangs and Cobras, so in 1983 he designed and developed a Shelby Equipped Cobra Mustang based on the 1983 fox chassis.

He showed the model to Ford and they loved it. Solomon wanted to call the car "The Cobra" but Ford would not agree because it owned the Cobra name. So Solomon officially named the car "The Predator Mustang", and Ford gave him the O.K. to produce the cars and sell them through selected dealers through out the country.

The Predator was made from 1983-1986. There were two factory locations; Dallas, Texas and Topeka, Kansas. The premier of the Predator was in 1983. Ford was so impressed by it that sources say that it inspired the design of the 1984 anniversary mustang. There were only 8 cars produced in 1983. Five of them were white hatch-backs with 1965 Shelby stripes, which read, "G.T. 350", 2 read "G.T. 302", and 1 read "G.T. 302H." Each car was equipped with a Cobra engine dress up kit with its unique small oval Cobra air cleaner, a Monte Carlo bar, a four point roll cage, a walnut shifter knob, 14 x 6.5 aluminum Shelby 8 spoke wheels with 3 bar knock off spinners, SVO competition suspension, functional hood scoop, competition hood pins & cables and 3:27 axle ratios. There are two aluminum G.T. 350 or G.T. 302 badges on each vehicle; one is located at the rear of the vehicle on the hatch, off set to the right. All of these cars were assembled in Dallas, Texas.

The 1984 Predators are equipped the same as the 83 models except for the following modifications, a 1965 Shelby Mustang hood scoop was installed and made functional. All the stripes and aluminum badgers were modified to say, "G.T. 302." Some cars had Kamei ground effects. This was the premier of the ultra rare Predator Convertible & "R or Race Models." The R Model could be ordered with any engine modifications, a fiber glass hood and with one of two axle ratios; 3:73 or 4:10. Two types of Predators were offered this year and they were: a standard Predator, which had the word, "Predator" on the valve covers, steering wheel, spinners and on the grill, and the other is a "Predator Cobra" or a Predator with the Cobra package, which had the word "Cobra" on the valve cover, the air cleaner and on the fenders under the Cobra snake. The R-Model came in both types. The color choice was the same as the Mustang G.T. There were approximately 125-130 cars built in 1984.

The 1985 models has the same equipment as the 84 models, but a new wheel was added to remind one of the magnum 500 wheel. It was a 4 spoke Enki Wheel. The R-Models were continued and came standard with a fiber glass hood, under drive pulleys, LeMans stripes, 140 MPH speedometer, a side stripe that said "G.T. 302 R" and 3:73 or 4:10 axle ratios.
Other SVO or Motor-Sport parts could be ordered with the car such as Cam, harness seat belts, etc., which was installed only after the car was titled. Some dealers offered an American Racing wheel and a BBS type wheel, also a Walnut 3 spoke steering wheel was a Dealer option. There were 135-140 1985 models built.

There were no R models in 1986. Some cars have no LeMans stripes and some did, but they all have side stripes. A few of them have stripes like a 67 G.T. 500 "Super Snake". There were only 17-23 cars built that year by Solomon America. All of the cars built from 1983-86 have a Solomon America Modification I.D. plate, which is located on the inner fender on the driverís side under the hood. These tags are very similar to the Shelby Mustang tags and are often used to distinguish a real Predator from a fake one.

So as one can see, this car could be obtained as radical as the buyer wanted it. It was, and still is highly sought after. The Predator was the first Shelby-equipped Mustang based on the fox chassis and has been followed by many others trying to keep the Shelby Legend alive!!!

This car really has the air of a Shelby Mustang, and was created in memory of the Shelby. From 83-86, this was the most lethal late model Mustang that one could buy, and was copied by some. So, we feel that it was only just, for this car to keep the Legend and tradition alive, even though it does not carry the Shelby name because it was definitely inspired by the Shelby Mustang!

FoxChassis 02-02-2005 06:51 PM

FYI: that picture above is of an '84 Predator Mustang, so an '83 Predator Mustang is not going to look like that.

Riley 02-02-2005 07:46 PM

So what does this mean?

EddieLX 02-02-2005 08:18 PM

This means that car is great looking!! The Predator Mustang, I have never heard of it. Post up the phone # so I can buy it!

gt82 02-02-2005 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Riley:
So what does this mean?
it means if you truely have a predator mustang manufactured in 83, restore it and keep it in a vault since there were only 8 produced...and if your car is actually one of the 8 you have a gold mine on your hands....and reading through the link provided by fox there weren't alot produced in any of the 4 years so no matter what if it is actually a predator it's worth some bucks

Riley 02-02-2005 11:13 PM

All of this sounds exactly like my car except for one thing. My car is Black with gold acces. Everything that has been said is exactly my car. PLease advise.

gt82 02-02-2005 11:36 PM

looking at the links supplied by foxchassis it doesn't say if black was available in 83 it only states 5 were white....in the second link there is a pic of a black with gold stripe but the year isn't identified so you could very well have one of these or a good copy....i would get your title and post the vin in the decoding section...also you should check the car's buck tag and post that also and check the rear of the car for the aluminum ID plate...there is a good chance since you live in the start where they were all produced that you do have an authentic predator but take some pics get the buck tag info and vin and let some of the knowlagable people here check into it for you....and contact the number listed at the bottom of the first link from fox

Riley 02-03-2005 12:02 AM

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gt82 02-03-2005 05:09 AM

buck tag is a small 2x3 inch or so metal tag usually rivited to the radiator support near the radiator hold down and has build info specific to that car...the aluminum id plate is on the read deck lid/hatch lid as per foxchassis' link specific to the predator's

Bill_Laird's86GT 02-03-2005 08:41 AM

If you go to the decoding forum, it has a picture on the page of the buck tag (red). This should give you an idea of what you are looking for on the radiator support.


Bill


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